http://www.prosody.co.uk/2006/11/06/play/ Games. Music. Life. Words. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:48:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 http://www.prosody.co.uk/2006/11/06/play/comment-page-1/#comment-1761 Godot Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:26:53 +0000 http://www.prosody.co.uk/2006/11/06/play/#comment-1761 Apologies for the spelling errors - it IS late and I am very tired. Apologies for the spelling errors - it IS late and I am very tired.

]]> http://www.prosody.co.uk/2006/11/06/play/comment-page-1/#comment-1760 Godot Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:26:10 +0000 http://www.prosody.co.uk/2006/11/06/play/#comment-1760 I'll keep it short because it's late and I'm about to go to bed. I do think that the argument here is very reductive - it is not the case that Pro-Evolution Soccer, GTA, etc are relaity games simply because they set themselves in a more relasitic representation of the world. Let me take the example of GTA, as mentioned in the article you link to. GTA is an interesting game as far as catharsis and ideas such as the death-drive are concerned. In my every day life I must subjugate myself to the laws and rules of society - as a teacher, indeed, I must enforce them - although I might feel myself to be a free thinking agent, in reality my actions are inhibited by social conventions. Through playing a game like GTA I am in a sense in a very un-real situation because it is one in which these laws are withdrawn. I may steal, kill, throw myself screaming from a building on a mountain bike - I can give vent then to the Dyionesian elements of my personality those which thinkers such as Nietzsche would say are supressed constatntly by herd morality. So the reality offered to me is real and un-real, consequence free. I have more desire to have simulated command and freedom in a relaity more cloely resembling my own than I do in a totally foreign one. As for Pro-evolution soccer, it simply allows one the unreal situation of being a famous footballer. This is not "reality" for the majority of the game players, surely? But it is a desire that the game satisfies. The real question? Do real professional footballers feel the need to play the game - to simulate what is to them a reality? So thank-you for giving me the opporunity to articualte these ideas, but in conclusionI would urge you and your friend to rethink your position as I beleive it is untenable. And yet back on your bike. Or have you given that up? You're a long way from York and I'm curious which pub you'd recommend there. Mine's probably the Ackhorn on Micklegate the the moment. Think on. G I’ll keep it short because it’s late and I’m about to go to bed.
I do think that the argument here is very reductive - it is not the case that Pro-Evolution Soccer, GTA, etc are relaity games simply because they set themselves in a more relasitic representation of the world. Let me take the example of GTA, as mentioned in the article you link to.
GTA is an interesting game as far as catharsis and ideas such as the death-drive are concerned. In my every day life I must subjugate myself to the laws and rules of society - as a teacher, indeed, I must enforce them - although I might feel myself to be a free thinking agent, in reality my actions are inhibited by social conventions. Through playing a game like GTA I am in a sense in a very un-real situation because it is one in which these laws are withdrawn. I may steal, kill, throw myself screaming from a building on a mountain bike - I can give vent then to the Dyionesian elements of my personality those which thinkers such as Nietzsche would say are supressed constatntly by herd morality.
So the reality offered to me is real and un-real, consequence free. I have more desire to have simulated command and freedom in a relaity more cloely resembling my own than I do in a totally foreign one.
As for Pro-evolution soccer, it simply allows one the unreal situation of being a famous footballer. This is not “reality” for the majority of the game players, surely? But it is a desire that the game satisfies. The real question? Do real professional footballers feel the need to play the game - to simulate what is to them a reality?
So thank-you for giving me the opporunity to articualte these ideas, but in conclusionI would urge you and your friend to rethink your position as I beleive it is untenable.
And yet back on your bike. Or have you given that up? You’re a long way from York and I’m curious which pub you’d recommend there. Mine’s probably the Ackhorn on Micklegate the the moment.
Think on.
G

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